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Offline Michael Dorosh

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Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« on: November 14, 2017, 02:54:56 PM »
Thinking seriously of getting this, but not finding a whole lot of discussion outside the official forums. Anyone want to recommend (or not) this one? I have a sense of what it does, looks like a massive data cruncher with every pilot, plane, strategic and tactical target in the ETO. Which is to my liking. Anything I should watch out for? I see concerns about the UI, but that's kind of a personal thing.


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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 03:07:06 PM »
Runs very poorly even on a modern PC.  Lots of lag.  GUI is horrid and it's hard to make out what's happening on the map as you have hundreds of airplane sprites overlapping one another as well as the ground targets (which look like yellow, red, or brown blobs).    Avoid it.  I wish I had.

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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 04:58:14 PM »
I have this.  Played a long long time ago.  It's a lot for work planning all those raids. The good part is that it's interesting and detailed... but hard to play.  Not for the lighthearted as with all GG games.
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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 05:33:19 PM »
I have this.  Played a long long time ago.  It's a lot for work planning all those raids. The good part is that it's interesting and detailed... but hard to play.  Not for the lighthearted as with all GG games.

Thanks to both of you for the replies. Sounds like what I'm after, to be honest.

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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 07:26:09 PM »
You might want to give this a look as well.

http://www.hpssims.com/Pages/products/defreich/defreich.asp

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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 07:56:09 PM »
This may help:

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/eagle-day-to-bombing-the-reich-pc-game-review.htm

I like the game.  If you like Grigsby data fests...then it may be good for you.

GG's War in the West actually covers the air war as well, and the interface is much more modern, and it would be playable in your lifetime.  So may be an alternative.  Of course you don't get Battle of Britain with that option.
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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 08:14:23 PM »
I actually loved Gary Grigsby's A World at War: A World Divided.  I got the sense that it was, in many ways, the simplest and most streamlined of his games--and it was DENSE! 

Are there other similar titles to that that he has done?

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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2017, 03:43:08 AM »
Bruce did a series of game diaries about the game, may provide some insight when deciding.

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2011/08/29/eagle-day-one-more-time-with-churchills-few/

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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2017, 04:05:47 AM »
I think the Matrix forums might have some information.

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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2017, 05:12:30 AM »
It is definitely shows some age but they are working on another update. Runs fine on my Windows 10 machine. If your really Interested in a very detailed game on the air war in WWII Europe you won't find anything to compare.

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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2017, 05:29:10 AM »
I actually loved Gary Grigsby's A World at War: A World Divided.  I got the sense that it was, in many ways, the simplest and most streamlined of his games--and it was DENSE! 

That's still seen as a very Axis & Allies-like title. I wrote the manual for it and its predecessor and pimped it at several conventions in the Matrix booth. I'd usually start with that when people came by and asked questions about it because there's few that haven't heard of A&A (I think we used the term "A&A on steroids" or something cliched, lol).

But yes, it's definitely deeper than a straight-up A&A game.

Having played GG War in the West too, I'm appreciative of all levels of complexity, but am not sure ED to BotR is in my personal wheelhouse.

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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2017, 08:25:04 AM »
I bought this game on sale a couple of years ago but found it performed poorly on my new computer and the interface was very outdated.  So I didn't spend much time with it.  They recently released a new patch but I haven't tried it.  I'm too absorbed with Grigsby's other titles (WITE & WITW) at the moment. 

But if they did a version II of this game, I'd be a first-day buyer. 

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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2017, 02:20:30 PM »
I actually loved Gary Grigsby's A World at War: A World Divided.  I got the sense that it was, in many ways, the simplest and most streamlined of his games--and it was DENSE! 

That's still seen as a very Axis & Allies-like title. I wrote the manual for it and its predecessor and pimped it at several conventions in the Matrix booth. I'd usually start with that when people came by and asked questions about it because there's few that haven't heard of A&A (I think we used the term "A&A on steroids" or something cliched, lol).

But yes, it's definitely deeper than a straight-up A&A game.

Having played GG War in the West too, I'm appreciative of all levels of complexity, but am not sure ED to BotR is in my personal wheelhouse.

That was a good manual, Cat!  Complicated as hell, but you did a decent job of making stuff findable.  The alternative was putting the same stuff about three different places to make sure people could find out what happened to the Factory Production Multiplier when a country became Unfrozen on a turn where it hadn't gone yet.

Seriously, I think the comparison to A&A is cosmetic, but the game itself is crazy deep.  I'd characterize it more as "Third Reich and Axis & Allies had a baby who was just as smart as Third Reich".  I could list all the ways AWaW:AWD is more complicated than A&A, but since you wrote the rule book, you probably already know those things.   ;D

It just drives me nuts to see a game knocked by grogs as "simple" when it's anything but.

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Re: Gary Grigsby's Eagle Day to Bombing the Reich - anyone own this?
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2017, 02:36:03 PM »
I bought this game on sale a couple of years ago but found it performed poorly on my new computer and the interface was very outdated.  So I didn't spend much time with it.  They recently released a new patch but I haven't tried it.  I'm too absorbed with Grigsby's other titles (WITE & WITW) at the moment. 

But if they did a version II of this game, I'd be a first-day buyer.

I tried the patch.  It doesn't really help with performance or the horrible interface of map presentation. 

The gameplay itself is actually rather simplistic.  There is a tonne of data to drill down and look at if that's your thing but it's really just chrome and doesn't affect gameplay at all.