Lots of buzz on Trump preparing a strike on Norks with China support

[mirth]

Hey look! It's the same quote I used, but since Con is quoting WSJ, y'all are gonna buy it

Well, he did use a credible source.

[mirth]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/12/world/asia/north-korea-nuclear-test.html

[Steelgrave]

Hey look! It's the same quote I used, but since Con is quoting WSJ, y'all are gonna buy it

^^^^^
And where did you learn about such transfers?

It wasn't Breitbart, Rush Limbaugh, or Drudge.

Seriously, weren't you alive back then? It was all over the news. And linking me in any way to those three sources is offensive. But just to refresh my memory, I went back and read stories from the NYT and CNN before posting.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/10/29/china.summit/
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/11/world/clinton-approves-technology-transfer-to-china.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/15/inside-the-ring-2059116/
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/05/22/china.money/
http://www.npolicy.org/article.php?aid=452&tid=2

Sigh....consistency, Brant, consistency.

[bayonetbrant]

Sigh....consistency, Brant, consistency.

I'm totally consistent - a part of me dies inside every time one of y'all asks for more info about something that we already answered in a front page article... :-\

[mirth]

Does anyone know where I can find a review for OOB: Winter War?

[Steelgrave]

Does anyone know where I can find a review for OOB: Winter War?

Not that I'm aware of....let's ask Brant   8)

[OJsDad]

China is not accepting coal from China. 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/12/trump-says-china-took-big-step-in-sending-coal-ships-back-to-north-korea.html

President Trump said Wednesday that China took a "big step" in easing tensions between the two nations by turning away North Korean coal ships the day before and returning them to their home port of Nampo.

At a joint press conference with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg on Wednesday, Trump described his relationship with Chinese President Xi Jinping as one with "good chemistry" and praised China's apparent commitment to banning coal imports from North Korea.

"We have a very big problem in North Korea and as I said, I really think that China is going to try very hard, and has already started—a lot of the coal boats have already been turned back—you saw that yesterday and today—they've been turned back," Trump said.

"The vast amount of coal coming out of North Korea going to China, they've turned back the boats—that's a big step and there are many other steps I know about so we'll see what happens, it may be effective, it may not be effective—if it's not effective, we will be effective—I can promise you that."

Reuters first reported the North Korean ship movement Tuesday. According to Reuters, China banned all imports of North Korean coal on February 26—cutting off the country's most important export product—after repeated missile tests from the isolated nation that drew criticism from around the globe.

A senior defense official told Fox News on Wednesday that the Reuters report was "credible."

While the White House said it would not comment on the Reuters report, State Department spokesman Mark Toner told Fox News that all UN Member States are required to implement sanctions resolutions in good faith, and that the U.S. "expects them to do so."

"Full implementation of this resolution will demonstrate global consensus in imposing stronger sanctions on North Korea's sources of revenue for its UN-proscribed nuclear, ballistic missile, and proliferation programs," Toner said in an email to Fox News.

The report also suggested that China's ban of North Korean coal could be beneficial to the U.S. economy, if the U.S. makes up the difference and considers selling coal to China.

According to Reuters data, there was no U.S. coking coal exported to China between late 2014 and 2016, but shipments rose to over 400,000 tons by late February, amid Trump's repeated commitment to restoring the U.S. coal industry and rolling back Obama-era coal regulations.

Under the Obama administration, the coal mining industry lost approximately 36,400 jobs, and between 2009 and 2015, the number of coal mines in the U.S. declined by 554, leaving 853 mines in the U.S.  by 2015, down from the 1,407 in 2009.

Last month, the president signed an executive order to "end the war on coal" and lift the ban on federal leasing for coal production, as well as the "job-killing restrictions" on the production of clean coal and other energy sources.

"We're going to have clean coal—really clean coal," Trump said at the signing of the Executive Order to Create Energy Independence." 

Fox News' Lucas Tomlinson contributed to this report. 

Brooke Singman is a Reporter for Fox News. Follow her on Twitter at @brookefoxnews.

[mirth]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/14/world/asia/north-korea-china-nuclear.html

[Staggerwing]

China may be getting nervous about the tension but it is also a golden opportunity to try and present itself as the 'grownup' in this thing to other Asian nations. If China's status goes up while the US focuses so much on Norkland it's a Chinese win-win.

[mirth]

China may be getting nervous about the tension but it is also a golden opportunity for them to try to project itself as the 'grownup' in this thing to other Asian nations. If China's status goes up while the US focuses so much on Norkland it's a Chinese win-win.

That's what I was thinking too. They get to play mediator and look like the reasonable ones.

[Boggit]

China may be getting nervous about the tension but it is also a golden opportunity for them to try to project itself as the 'grownup' in this thing to other Asian nations. If China's status goes up while the US focuses so much on Norkland it's a Chinese win-win.

That's what I was thinking too. They get to play mediator and look like the reasonable ones.

Well if they can pull it off all well and good. At the end of the day Kim Jong-Un has stated that he is developing nuclear ballistic missiles for the purpose of targeting the USA. How long do you wait until he is ready to launch?

[OJsDad]

Can someone explain the objection of S. Koreans to having the THAAD system deployed there.

[mirth]

Can someone explain the objection of S. Koreans to having the THAAD system deployed there.

The S. Koreans have whackadoos who will protest anything, same as us?

[Toonces]

I looked at a Reuters article about the protests but didn't glean any info on why South Koreans would protest the system.  So if I had to guess, I'd say that they fear it will destabilize the situation and provoke the North to attack.

The idea is that North Korea's nukes act as a deterrent against the South and the U.S. right now.  Once the THAAD is in place, it would degrade the North's nukes' deterrent effect.  Therefore, the North should strike while it still can before the THAAD system is operational.  The South, fearing this THAAD will provoke the North to do a preemptive attack, therefore protest its installation.

Just a guess.

[mirth]

It's also provocative to the ChiComms