I don't feel good about myself, but I knew it was inevitable. I bought my first title on the Epic Store. :-[
There are just too many attractive titles going exclusive and I don't think I want to punish the developer for making deals that will give them more of a piece of the profit pie, which I hope will be siphoned back into further development.
Yes, I still have major concerns about the security of the Epic platform, but I am not saving any financial information with my account. Also, the platform is far inferior to Steam in terms of utility and function, but maybe it will improve over time.
So, I have compromised with myself...I will not pre-order Epic exclusive titles, particularly titles that were originally marketed with Steam access. However, once a title is released in EA or in retail state, I will consider the purchase.
:o
What exclusive did you get?
Rebel Galaxy Outlaw and I will probably get Satisfactory, as well.
Two I am feeling the pain of not being able to get. Dammit all to hell. Hell!!
What is the Epic Store?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2019, 11:14:08 AM
Rebel Galaxy Outlaw
Damn, didn't realise this was an exclusive. FFS.
Epic store was created by the Fortnite developers. Like Valve created Steam.
Shame on you, Jarhead. At least you admitted it though.
My own embargo continues; they won't ever see a penny of my money.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2019, 11:14:08 AM
Rebel Galaxy Outlaw and I will probably get Satisfactory, as well.
Rebel Galaxy Outlaw is the one game I am considering a purchase on Epic Store. $30 USD is a tempting offer.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on August 27, 2019, 01:23:52 PM
Shame on you, Jarhead. At least you admitted it though.
My own embargo continues; they won't ever see a penny of my money.
I know. I tried. Sorry. :hide:
God speed.
Is Rebel Galaxy: Outlaw your only gray market purchase so far?
Quote from: Gusington on August 27, 2019, 02:08:06 PM
Is Rebel Galaxy: Outlaw your only gray market purchase so far?
So far, yes. But, like I said, I'm probably going to pick up Satisfactory, as well. There are a couple of others on the horizon that have my interest, but I will not pre-order.
I feel the same way I did when Superman gave up his powers for Lois Lane. Epic is a wanton gaming chippie.
It's ok. I'm going to do the same with Outer Worlds and Mechwarrior.
I've been tempted as well. Satisfactory and Rebel Galaxy Outlaw both look really interesting to me. Observation also looks like it could be a good experience, as well as Genesis Alpha One. AFAIK they are all exclusive on the Epic Store right now.
Quote from: IICptMillerII on August 27, 2019, 03:16:50 PM
I've been tempted as well. Satisfactory and Rebel Galaxy Outlaw both look really interesting to me. Observation also looks like it could be a good experience, as well as Genesis Alpha One. AFAIK they are all exclusive on the Epic Store right now.
Yes. I got Genesis Alpha One when it released on the Xbone because I didn't want to get it from Epic.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2019, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: IICptMillerII on August 27, 2019, 03:16:50 PM
I've been tempted as well. Satisfactory and Rebel Galaxy Outlaw both look really interesting to me. Observation also looks like it could be a good experience, as well as Genesis Alpha One. AFAIK they are all exclusive on the Epic Store right now.
Yes. I got Genesis Alpha One when it released on the Xbone because I didn't want to get it from Epic.
Have you put any time into Genesis Alpha One yet? How is it? i have it on my Steam wishlist, supposed to release in Jan 2020 on Steam.
JEEZ I forgot about Mechwarrior...
:/
Quote from: -budd- on August 27, 2019, 05:49:01 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2019, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: IICptMillerII on August 27, 2019, 03:16:50 PM
I've been tempted as well. Satisfactory and Rebel Galaxy Outlaw both look really interesting to me. Observation also looks like it could be a good experience, as well as Genesis Alpha One. AFAIK they are all exclusive on the Epic Store right now.
Yes. I got Genesis Alpha One when it released on the Xbone because I didn't want to get it from Epic.
Have you put any time into Genesis Alpha One yet? How is it? i have it on my Steam wishlist, supposed to release in Jan 2020 on Steam.
Probably about 3 -5 hours. Its pretty cool.
Updated impressions of the epic platform. One good, one bad.
First the bad...I opened the epic software the other day to see a contact in my friend list. I hadn't added anybody, or received a notification that someone had requested to be added. I did some very quick research and saw something that led me to believe it was epic related, like a tech support contact, or something, so I left it. Then the next day, I saw a second contact in the list. Both names had Russian text or what appeared to be Cyrillic and this upset me. They appeared to be bots of some kind. No idea what they were doing, but I deleted them immediately.
Now the good....I bought Phoenix Point mistakenly believing it had left preorder status and had been released for early access on the epic store. When I discovered there was no early access through the epic store purchase I requested a refund. This was on Sunday. By early Monday morning, I had a refund. No questions asked.
I'm still going to look deeper into the bot situation, but this appears to be another fundamental weakness with the platform. Nobody should be able to join your contact list without requiring your approval or receiving notification. Perhaps there is a privacy setting that needs adjusting. This all goes back to the functionality of the application that is so drastically inferior to steam. You would think they would have incorporated a lot of the steam functionality, but no...it's so bare bones.
The Cyrillic text would definitely concern me.
Not going to buy anything from them...i've got enough games on GOG and steam
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 03, 2019, 06:36:09 AM
Perhaps there is a privacy setting that needs adjusting.
Default settings (if it is a privacy setting issue and not a fundamental flaw) should block this. It shouldn't be up to you to go through all the settings to find out if you allowed stuff you're not ok with.
Well, I'm glad someone here did finally break the seal. I recently read an article in the NYTimes about Epic and Steam. From what I gleaned from the story there are some more big name players eyeing the online game store market. Way too much money involved here for big players to ignore it now and in the near future. So, it looks like this will be the wave of the future. Kinda' goes along with what's happening with Cable TV and the multiple streaming services. Having more competition will probably be good for us initially but will eventually cause us more headaches dealing with multiple storefronts and the accounts that go with them.
I bought Division 2 thru the Ubisoft Store to avoid Epic but I knew I was just putting off the inevitable too. JH, please give us your review of Rebel Galaxy Outlaw as that is one of the games I'm most interested in buying. Also, thanks for the info on Phoenix Point as I was planning on buying it too but since it is not available to play as of yet on Epic I will wait on that purchase.
Hey trek...
Rebel Galaxy Outlaw is a pretty decent game and its been fun in small doses, but its also been a little frustrating for me too in terms of the initial money grind and taking on missions that are too difficult in the early game. I can see its appeal to gamers who loved the old classic space shooters in the vein of Privateer, etc. but with games like Elite and Star Citizen out there, RGO just doesn't really have enough there to hold my attention.
Its well made and it follows the vibe of the first title. If you liked the original game and those old arcade style space shooters then you will probably get your money's worth. For me, I'm not sure how much time I will put into it ultimately. Take my opinion with a grain of salt I guess...I seem to be the exception, as it is getting very positive reviews.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 03, 2019, 06:36:09 AM
First the bad...I opened the epic software the other day to see a contact in my friend list. I hadn't added anybody, or received a notification that someone had requested to be added. I did some very quick research and saw something that led me to believe it was epic related, like a tech support contact, or something, so I left it. Then the next day, I saw a second contact in the list. Both names had Russian text or what appeared to be Cyrillic and this upset me. They appeared to be bots of some kind. No idea what they were doing, but I deleted them immediately.
That, to me, is a big deal. I have never had any kind of issue like this with Steam. The fact that it's possible for bot accounts to show up in your contacts list without any type of notification or manual screening on the users part is unacceptable. True it's 99% likely that it means nothing and nothing would ever come of it, but I'm not willing to take the chance that my payment information, or other information could be compromised so easily. I've already heard some sketchy stuff about the Epic software in general and how they handle payment information, and this just furthers my concern. I was seriously considering getting a game or two through the Epic store, but not anymore. Maybe in the future the Epic store will become more secure, but in the meantime I refuse to take any of the risks associated with it in its current state.
I'm no Steam fan boy by any stretch, and I always view more competition as a good thing for the consumer in the end. There are just too many prominent issues with Epic for me to trust it at all. I'm hoping it's because the software is new and needs some time to work itself out, and I'll reconsider in a few months. Until then though, it's Steam/GOG for me.
I have had Epic since nearly day one that it has released (although have made no purchases, just grabbed free games---nothing has interested me enough to buy yet), so far don't have any contacts on my list so not sure what triggers those. Don't think I changed any default settings or anything like that, but will keep my eye out in case I have any uninvited guests. If/when a game releases I want, don't think I will hesitate to pull the trigger though...they just need to release something I want:)
JH, Thanks for the info on RG Outlaw. I just remembered that I bought the original Rebel Galaxy a couple years back and didn't stick with it for long. After watching vids of the new game on YouTube I don't think I will enjoy it as much as I thought. Your comments reinforced my thoughts. Besides I need to get back into Elite again as that's my go-to space sim these days so I don't need more distractions keeping me from playing it. I'm spending the majority of my gaming on DCS and Box right now to the detriment of all my other games.
I wonder am I the only one here that gets stuck on a certain genre/type of game for a couple months and ignore all others? For example, before this phase of mine I was solely focused on naval games: PT-Boats, WOW, and U-Boats. Before that only RTS games. I tend to go in cycles for some reason.
Since April I was playing exclusively ancients games. Over the weekend I finally moved on to fantasy games like Diablo, Warhammer and Elder Scrolls.
Not going to lie, the first thing I thought of when I saw the title of this post was that you really needed the toilet.
He may still.
Speaking of the poor user experience with Epic, looks like Steam, which already far surpasses Epic's functionality is going to be getting even better...
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/09/04/valve-are-changing-how-your-steam-library-looks-and-its-long-overdue/ (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/09/04/valve-are-changing-how-your-steam-library-looks-and-its-long-overdue/)
Been looking forward to the Steam library update - don't know why it has taken so long.
Damn Jarhead, first you open an Epic account then you start reading that RPS toilet paper again? I want the old Jarhead back. :(
Lol!
I might crack my seal when MW5 launches. . .
I still hope for more places it will be available from however. 🤨
Picked up Phoenix Point today. I just couldn't help it. The idea of a brand new turn-based tictacs game by Julian Gollop is too much for me to say "no" to. I won't lie, the Geiger-esque artwork in the Facebook ads are what swayed me over this morning. :-X
Might just bite the bullet on John Wick Hex as well now that I've sold my soul...
>:(
I'll turn in my gaming hipster card at the door. :-[
>:( >:(
Quote from: Gusington on August 27, 2019, 12:27:52 PM
Epic store was created by the Fortnite developers. Like Valve created Steam.
Like discord, Epic has major chinese govt company investment. tencent I think? Like the movie industry these days. Which makes sense as they are the second largest company/country/economy in the world. ;)
Personally I think the only way to compete with steam is with exclusives. No other way into the market.