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Title: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 27, 2016, 06:18:55 PM
The consolidated catch-all thread for discussing all things Season 4 of the GrogCast!  O0

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Post by: mirth on September 28, 2016, 11:13:04 AM
Hah! B_C's head is ready to explode in the first minute!
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Post by: mirth on September 28, 2016, 05:20:02 PM
Well that was...something  O0
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Post by: Arctic Blast on October 01, 2016, 08:43:49 PM
Woohoo!  O0
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Post by: bayonetbrant on October 06, 2016, 05:50:08 PM
Episode 2 is here.  Late, but here.  Kind of like MD and Origins.
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Post by: MetalDog on October 06, 2016, 06:14:14 PM
I was there by 8:30 each morning.  Just 'cuz I didn't come until Friday, doesn't make me late :P
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Post by: Blackndecker on October 12, 2016, 03:25:32 PM
Great start to the season... by the way, do you guys keep track of the g!es mentioned during the episode? That Hearts of Iron or Civ gets mentioned is probably not hard for people to remember, but some of the board games mentioned might be somewhat obscure... I'm not opposed to re-listening to the GrogCast when I get out of my car to write stuff down...but, I'm lazy...
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Post by: bayonetbrant on October 12, 2016, 03:49:34 PM
Not a bad suggestion, but directly answer the question, no we don't keep track...
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Post by: bbmike on October 17, 2016, 03:38:20 PM
Caught up with the first two Season 4 episodes on the drive to NJ today. Despite the oddly changing audio volume, good episodes!  O0
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Post by: bayonetbrant on October 19, 2016, 04:28:58 PM
next episode just posted! :)
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Post by: mirth on October 19, 2016, 04:32:38 PM
Finally!
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Post by: bbmike on October 19, 2016, 04:59:18 PM
Just in time for my drive back from NJ.  O0
Title: Re: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: bbmike on October 20, 2016, 10:20:27 AM
Great episode! Listening to it cost me about $30.  :P
Title: Re: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 27, 2016, 10:30:49 AM
New one up today
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Post by: bayonetbrant on November 02, 2016, 02:15:29 PM
Mirth slobbers all over our guest in the latest episode
Title: Re: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: bbmike on November 02, 2016, 04:02:18 PM
Link not up yet?
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Post by: bayonetbrant on November 02, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
Link not up yet?

sure it is, go look
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Post by: bbmike on November 02, 2016, 05:03:47 PM
I did. The little bar to play it/download it (like under Episode 4) isn't there.  :(

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Title: Re: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 02, 2016, 05:52:22 PM
reload the page and see what happens
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Post by: bbmike on November 02, 2016, 05:59:00 PM
Magic!  :smitten:
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Post by: bayonetbrant on November 15, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
it's clear Mirth hasn't listened to the latest episode, given the dearth of wails of misery from him in this thread.
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Post by: mirth on November 15, 2016, 10:06:46 AM
I'm afraid.
Title: Re: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 15, 2016, 10:13:15 AM
I'm afraid.

you should be

blame B_C - he did the editing.
or blame yourself, for drunkenly slobbering all over Bruce
Title: Re: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 22, 2016, 07:14:57 AM
new episode today, for all your turkey day escapist needs
Title: Re: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 20, 2017, 04:41:02 AM
The lost / last Season 4 GrogCast is finallyfinally here!
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Post by: bayonetbrant on January 20, 2017, 06:10:05 AM
Just a heads-up in case you have the kids in the car, there are a few bad words in this episode. And at least one on-air fart. Not sure where it came from. We'll blame Chris.
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 20, 2017, 07:26:21 AM
Yay !!!!! The grogcast came back , whoo hoo !!!!!  :D ........and itchy balls aside , lol  ;D it was a fantastic episode , I just finished listening and had to come say , great job you guys  :clap: I loved all the Star Wars talk , and I've never heard of the comic stories before ,Zon ? Something?  ...the name escapes me , I'll have to check it out again , but that sounds like something I would like to read :) I'd love to hear how those minis games work out for B_C , finally get those guys outta there plastic wrappers !!!!! It was great hearing what games y'all are playing lately , sounds like MD and mirth are having fun with their game groups , that's awesome . I hope you didn't feel the wrench there too much Brant , selling some D&D paraphanalia ......although I think it makes sense that if it's not getting used , let someone else get the enjoyment out of it , and you get to fund going to origins , win-win for everyone :)  I hope there is some more car wars stuff coming up soon on the front page , I've been an avid reader of that whole series and thoroughly enjoyed the articles :) car games are fun , I play them , and it's great to read an rpg about a really cool gaming system  8) so , yeah , awesome job guys !!!!! And it's good to know the universe as we know it is still functioning after the grogcast went live  ;D  thanks for the heads up about the language ....not that I mind the occasional f-bomb being thrown around , but yeah thanks  O0 I have listened to the grogcast before on my phone in the car , but had to give that up ....at least while I'm driving , lol , it's just way to distracting to listen and drive , nearly crashed , hahahahahahaha !!!!!! Omg ......I sound like a total fanboy , lol , guess I am :)
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Post by: bayonetbrant on January 20, 2017, 07:33:23 AM
it's "Zahn" - he wrote the original "official" sequel series that came after Return of the Jedi

http://amzn.to/2jwx6ak
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Post by: MetalDog on January 20, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Just a heads-up in case you have the kids in the car, there are a few bad words in this episode. And at least one on-air fart. Not sure where it came from. We'll blame Chris.

Whoever gives the blame gets the shame  :-"
Title: Re: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: Emeraldlis on January 20, 2017, 05:27:07 PM
it's "Zahn" - he wrote the original "official" sequel series that came after Return of the Jedi

http://amzn.to/2jwx6ak

Looking forward to reading that , thanks for the link :)

Just a heads-up in case you have the kids in the car, there are a few bad words in this episode. And at least one on-air fart. Not sure where it came from. We'll blame Chris.

Whoever gives the blame gets the shame  :-"

Whoever smelt it dealt it , hehe ,  :-"
Title: Re: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 20, 2017, 06:12:10 PM
the one you want is Heir to the Empire, and then the 2 after that
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 21, 2017, 03:50:15 PM
the one you want is Heir to the Empire, and then the 2 after that

Just looked this up on Amazon , U.K. , can't get this as a kindle download , which is what I wanted for my kindle app on iPad . But can order as a hardback book ....was about to have a meltdown , lol , b/c I don't want to wait for the book to be posted !!!!!! Then had a brainwave to check it out on audible ....and voilą, it's there :) so I've just bought  , Star Wars : the thrawn trilogy , book one :heir to the empire :)  thanks for the info  O0 I'm sure at some point though , I'll end up with the hardback version  :nerd:
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Post by: mirth on January 21, 2017, 03:56:10 PM
They're not great books (yes I'll get shit for saying it). Don't spend a lot on them. The best Star Wars Expanded Universe stories can be found in the Dark Horse comics.
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 21, 2017, 04:07:43 PM
They're not great books (yes I'll get shit for saying it). Don't spend a lot on them. The best Star Wars Expanded Universe stories can be found in the Dark Horse comics.

Only spent a fiver on it , but STILL looking forward to giving it a listen :) but ....oh....my.....gawd , now I have to go check out dark horse comics  ;D thanks mirth , haha ....
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Post by: mirth on January 21, 2017, 04:15:51 PM
The Zahn books are okay and I give Zahn a lot of credit for carrying the franchise through a moribund period. It's hard to believe today, but after Return of the Jedi the SW franchise was pretty much dead for almost a decade. Lucas was done with it, no one knew if there'd ever be another movie and little else was going on with it. Zahn's books changed all that and renewed interest in SW in a big way. I'm just not a huge fan of the stories, but I will acknowledge what he did for SW.
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Post by: bbmike on January 21, 2017, 04:29:50 PM
So it's basically the "Spock Must Die!" of the Star Wars universe?
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Post by: mirth on January 21, 2017, 04:32:26 PM
So it's basically the "Spock Must Die!" of the Star Wars universe?

Heh. I haven't read that one, but I read pretty much every Star Trek novel written through 1989 and 90% of those books were drek.
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Post by: bbmike on January 21, 2017, 04:42:05 PM
So it's basically the "Spock Must Die!" of the Star Wars universe?

Heh. I haven't read that one, but I read pretty much every Star Trek novel written through 1989 and 90% of those books were drek.

That's so true. But there were a couple of diamonds in there.
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Post by: mirth on January 21, 2017, 04:44:48 PM
So it's basically the "Spock Must Die!" of the Star Wars universe?

Heh. I haven't read that one, but I read pretty much every Star Trek novel written through 1989 and 90% of those books were drek.

That's so true. But there were a couple of diamonds in there.

Agreed. The Diane Duane books were some of the best sci-fi I've ever read. There were  a few other gems as well. Vonda McIntyre's books were very good. Her adaptation of Wrath of Khan is worth a read to this day.
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Post by: bbmike on January 21, 2017, 05:03:49 PM
Highly recommend Black Fire by Sonni Cooper as well.
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Post by: mirth on January 21, 2017, 05:08:09 PM
Highly recommend Black Fire by Sonni Cooper as well.

Heh. I was just thinking about that one. Still remember when I read it back in '83.
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 22, 2017, 07:12:42 AM
The Zahn books are okay and I give Zahn a lot of credit for carrying the franchise through a moribund period. It's hard to believe today, but after Return of the Jedi the SW franchise was pretty much dead for almost a decade. Lucas was done with it, no one knew if there'd ever be another movie and little else was going on with it. Zahn's books changed all that and renewed interest in SW in a big way. I'm just not a huge fan of the stories, but I will acknowledge what he did for SW.

So did Lucas want to jump back in and do more films directly because of the Timothy zahn books ? I love the movies , but I've never really delved much into the background of the whole thing . What's the relationship between zahn and Lucas ?
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Post by: mirth on January 22, 2017, 07:17:59 AM
I don't think there's a direct relationship. The main thing the Lucas people told Zahn, and other authors, was that the period before the first Star Wars film was off limits. So Lucas was planning to do the prequels at some point. But Zahn's books did reignite fan interest and lead to other works. Shadows of Empire was widely acknowledged as a Star Wars movie without an actual movie. That book was marketed as though it was a movie - toys, video game tie-ins, etc.
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Post by: bayonetbrant on January 22, 2017, 07:21:13 AM
The Zahn books are okay and I give Zahn a lot of credit for carrying the franchise through a moribund period. It's hard to believe today, but after Return of the Jedi the SW franchise was pretty much dead for almost a decade. Lucas was done with it, no one knew if there'd ever be another movie and little else was going on with it. Zahn's books changed all that and renewed interest in SW in a big way. I'm just not a huge fan of the stories, but I will acknowledge what he did for SW.

So did Lucas want to jump back in and do more films directly because of the Timothy zahn books ? I love the movies , but I've never really delved much into the background of the whole thing . What's the relationship between zahn and Lucas ?

Zahn was hired by Lucas to write the official follow-up after Return of the Jedi, and Lucasfilm had deemed them "canonical".

Whether or not Lucas was 'inspired' by Zahn to go back to the first 3 movies is unknown, but I doubt it, since they were 8 years or so apart.

When Disney bought the Star Wars franchise, they jettisoned all of the "official" continuity from the post-Jedi Lucasfilm efforts (several book series and several graphic novels - Dark Empire was incredible) and completely rebooted everything, and that gave us The Force Awakens.  It also deprived us of ever seeing Thrawn on the big screen as he was written in the Heir to the Empire series, where he was a serious bad-ass.
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Post by: bayonetbrant on January 22, 2017, 07:21:57 AM
Shadows of Empire was widely acknowledged as a Star Wars movie without an actual movie. That book was marketed as though it was a movie - toys, video game tie-ins, etc.

Was there an actual novel, or just the graphic novel?  (he says, obviously too lazy to hit Google)
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Post by: mirth on January 22, 2017, 07:30:39 AM
There was a novel. Steve Perry wrote it I think.
Title: Re: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: mirth on January 22, 2017, 07:38:19 AM
The Zahn books are okay and I give Zahn a lot of credit for carrying the franchise through a moribund period. It's hard to believe today, but after Return of the Jedi the SW franchise was pretty much dead for almost a decade. Lucas was done with it, no one knew if there'd ever be another movie and little else was going on with it. Zahn's books changed all that and renewed interest in SW in a big way. I'm just not a huge fan of the stories, but I will acknowledge what he did for SW.

So did Lucas want to jump back in and do more films directly because of the Timothy zahn books ? I love the movies , but I've never really delved much into the background of the whole thing . What's the relationship between zahn and Lucas ?

Zahn was hired by Lucas to write the official follow-up after Return of the Jedi, and Lucasfilm had deemed them "canonical".

Whether or not Lucas was 'inspired' by Zahn to go back to the first 3 movies is unknown, but I doubt it, since they were 8 years or so apart.

When Disney bought the Star Wars franchise, they jettisoned all of the "official" continuity from the post-Jedi Lucasfilm efforts (several book series and several graphic novels - Dark Empire was incredible) and completely rebooted everything, and that gave us The Force Awakens.  It also deprived us of ever seeing Thrawn on the big screen as he was written in the Heir to the Empire series, where he was a serious bad-ass.

They put Thrawn back into canon through Rebels, so it's not impossible for him to show up in a future film.
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Post by: bayonetbrant on January 22, 2017, 07:39:40 AM
^^^^^
I know, but no one expects him to be the HBAIC the way he was in Heir to the Empire.
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Post by: Staggerwing on January 22, 2017, 07:51:14 AM
So it's basically the "Spock Must Die!" of the Star Wars universe?

Heh. I haven't read that one, but I read pretty much every Star Trek novel written through 1989 and 90% of those books were drek.

Hah! Spock Must Die! is actually the only ST novel I've ever read. Some day...
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Post by: mirth on January 22, 2017, 07:54:18 AM
^^^^^
I know, but no one expects him to be the HBAIC the way he was in Heir to the Empire.


They made Vader a badass again with Rogue One. They could do it with Thrawn. The period between ROTJ and Force Awakens is open territory.
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Post by: bayonetbrant on January 22, 2017, 07:58:00 AM
They're not great books (yes I'll get shit for saying it). Don't spend a lot on them.
The Zahn books were fantastic.  The ones after that were kind of 'meh'.

The best Star Wars Expanded Universe stories can be found in the Dark Horse comics.
Mostly true. 
Dark Empire I was fantastic.
Dark Empire II was a steaming pile of poached goat balls.

The ongoing series were uneven, but more good than bad. 
The advantage that they had was that they were significantly better than the old Marvel ongoing Star Wars series from the mid-80s, which was targeted at 10-year-old boys whose lunch money never made it from the bus to the classroom*.  Dark Horse realized those 10-year-olds had all grown up some where along the way and treated them as adults when writing for their audience.










* so basically, Mirth.
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 22, 2017, 08:01:09 AM
So in both your opinions mirth and Brant , has Disney buying the Star Wars franchise completely ruined what Lucas was trying to do with it ? I definately need to read this stuff to understand what's gone on , but I loved rogue one because it explained how they got what they needed to destroy the Death Star . The whole story of stardust was really enjoyable :)

And I'd sooner talk to real people than google any day , lol , I hate/love google , it's always a last resort for me ....I'm weird !!!!
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Post by: bayonetbrant on January 22, 2017, 08:02:14 AM
Nah, I think Lucas had lost his way.  I don't know that Disney was the right move, but Lucas hanging onto it wasn't doing the franchise any favors any more.
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Post by: Staggerwing on January 22, 2017, 08:02:44 AM
^^^^^
I know, but no one expects him to be the HBAIC the way he was in Heir to the Empire.


HBAIC? Heap Bad-ass in charge?
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 22, 2017, 08:06:03 AM
Nah, I think Lucas had lost his way.  I don't know that Disney was the right move, but Lucas hanging onto it wasn't doing the franchise any favors any more.

That's good to know , that it was rescued as a strory , rather than lost or locked away in a vault somewhere  :-\

^^^^^
I know, but no one expects him to be the HBAIC the way he was in Heir to the Empire.


HBAIC? Heap Bad-ass in charge?

That's what I was wondering , lol :)
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 22, 2017, 08:07:20 AM
They're not great books (yes I'll get shit for saying it). Don't spend a lot on them.
The Zahn books were fantastic.  The ones after that were kind of 'meh'.

The best Star Wars Expanded Universe stories can be found in the Dark Horse comics.
Mostly true. 
Dark Empire I was fantastic.
Dark Empire II was a steaming pile of poached goat balls.

The ongoing series were uneven, but more good than bad. 
The advantage that they had was that they were significantly better than the old Marvel ongoing Star Wars series from the mid-80s, which was targeted at 10-year-old boys whose lunch money never made it from the bus to the classroom*.  Dark Horse realized those 10-year-olds had all grown up some where along the way and treated them as adults when writing for their audience.










* so basically, Mirth.

Which should be read first then ? The book or the comic ?
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Post by: bayonetbrant on January 22, 2017, 08:11:05 AM
Heir to the Empire takes place before Dark Empire I and II
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 22, 2017, 08:15:30 AM
Cool  8) the book it is then :) is this book the very beginning of the whole Star Wars thing then ? Please tell me there's no prequel to that ......or prequel to that , lol , because although I loved rogue one , I NEED that to be the beginning !!!!!! I'm getting all prequeled out  :wow:   ;D
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Post by: mirth on January 22, 2017, 08:18:13 AM
10-year-old boys whose lunch money never made it from the bus to the classroom*. 










* so basically, Mirth.

I learned to walk to school. Lots of a-holes on the bus.
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Post by: mirth on January 22, 2017, 08:26:26 AM
Cool  8) the book it is then :) is this book the very beginning of the whole Star Wars thing then ? Please tell me there's no prequel to that ......or prequel to that , lol , because although I loved rogue one , I NEED that to be the beginning !!!!!! I'm getting all prequeled out  :wow:   ;D

Well, Brian Daley wrote a series of Han Solo books set before the first Star Wars film. Those were pretty good for back in the day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Han_Solo_Adventures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Han_Solo_Adventures)

Then there's Splinter of the Mind's Eye by Alan Dean Foster. That takes place immediately after the first SW movie and was written as a sequel in case the first movie bombed and Lucas couldn't do a big budget second movie. That book isn't great, but a it's worth a read for nostalgia purposes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splinter_of_the_Mind's_Eye (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splinter_of_the_Mind's_Eye)

Under no circumstances, should you subject yourself to Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu. It was basically unreadable.
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Post by: bbmike on January 22, 2017, 08:47:22 AM
I still have I, Jedi around here somewhere. I've heard that one is also good.
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 22, 2017, 08:54:49 AM
Cool  8) the book it is then :) is this book the very beginning of the whole Star Wars thing then ? Please tell me there's no prequel to that ......or prequel to that , lol , because although I loved rogue one , I NEED that to be the beginning !!!!!! I'm getting all prequeled out  :wow:   ;D

Well, Brian Daley wrote a series of Han Solo books set before the first Star Wars film. Those were pretty good for back in the day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Han_Solo_Adventures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Han_Solo_Adventures)

Then there's Splinter of the Mind's Eye by Alan Dean Foster. That takes place immediately after the first SW movie and was written as a sequel in case the first movie bombed and Lucas couldn't do a big budget second movie. That book isn't great, but a it's worth a read for nostalgia purposes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splinter_of_the_Mind's_Eye (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splinter_of_the_Mind's_Eye)

Under no circumstances, should you subject yourself to Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu. It was basically unreadable.


Thanks for the links mirth  O0 the hans solo /Chewie stories sound like a lot of fun , adventure and more of a back story on them is cool . I always thought it was a shame in the movies how their friendship wasn't expanded on a bit more , because I think it's a great partnership .
Splinter of the minds eye looks good too :) more explanation of the kiber crystal , it looks like . Hahaha , that totally sounds like yoda !!!!
Jinasso wore that around her neck in rogue one , so it'll be great to have that expanded upon . Thanks for the heads up on the mind harp of sharu .......good to know !!! Lol .
So basically , I'll read/listen to heir of the empire .......move on to the dark horse comic ......then go for the hans solo and Chewie stories .....and that should scratch my Star Wars itch for some time to come  :bd:

I still have I, Jedi around here somewhere. I've heard that one is also good.

Good grief bbmike , there's more  :o , lol , not that I'll be complaining after I've read the other stuff :)
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Post by: mirth on January 22, 2017, 08:56:08 AM
I still have I, Jedi around here somewhere. I've heard that one is also good.

I've read part of Kenobi. It's pretty good. I'll finish it at some point.
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Post by: bbmike on January 22, 2017, 02:38:20 PM
I still have I, Jedi around here somewhere. I've heard that one is also good.

I've read part of Kenobi. It's pretty good. I'll finish it at some point.

Now I must read Kenobi! What have you done! I'm also looking at Heir to the Empire.  #:-)
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Post by: Martok on January 26, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
Honestly, Emeraldlis, I would just start with the Thrawn trilogy (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command), and then go from there -- should you feel so inclined.  mirth's disagreement notwithstanding, they really are good books; they're considered a cornerstone of the Star Wars expanded universe for a reason. 




I still have I, Jedi around here somewhere. I've heard that one is also good.

It remains, by far, my favorite standalone Star Wars novel.  It helps to have read the (also excellent IMO) X-Wing series of novels first, but it's not necessary to enjoy it. 

Title: Re: It's FINALLY Here - GrogCast Season 4!
Post by: Emeraldlis on January 27, 2017, 11:14:41 AM
Honestly, Emeraldlis, I would just start with the Thrawn trilogy (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command), and then go from there -- should you feel so inclined.  mirth's disagreement notwithstanding, they really are good books; they're considered a cornerstone of the Star Wars expanded universe for a reason. 




I still have I, Jedi around here somewhere. I've heard that one is also good.

It remains, by far, my favorite standalone Star Wars novel.  It helps to have read the (also excellent IMO) X-Wing series of novels first, but it's not necessary to enjoy it.

Hi martok , yeah I'm about a quarter of the way through heir to the empire . I'm listening to it on audible , and honestly it's really cool to hear the characters voices brought to life . The book starts with Star Wars intro theme music , seriously cool  8) I'm loving how it starts with leia being pregnant and kind of carries on the story of hans solo and his cheeky bartering , and general roaming the galaxy trying to help out leia :) the character of thrawn is excellent , I really hope we see him in a movie one day . But so far so good , it's a really enjoyable story :) I'll definately be purchasing the rest of the trilogy ........and now you mention I Jedi , along with the others ....hmmmmmmm , I'm going to be doing a LOT of Star Wars reading/listening over the coming weeks  :bd: I even watched the force awakens a couple of nights ago , lol , I've got my Star Wars mojo on !!!!!!!!  :notworthy: thanks for the extra recommends  O0
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Post by: bayonetbrant on January 27, 2017, 11:18:16 AM
Just keep this in mind:

The Force Awakens is a COMPLETELY different story than the books we're talking about.

The books all existed before that movie, and the creators of the movie have said outright that the books don't matter, and may as well have never existed.
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Post by: mirth on January 27, 2017, 11:20:47 AM
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Post by: Barthheart on January 27, 2017, 11:20:56 AM
Zahn wrote first!
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Post by: BanzaiCat on January 27, 2017, 11:22:24 AM
There are literally hundreds of non-canon books set in the Star Wars universe out there...counting graphic novels.

One of my favorites is the X-Wing: Rogue Squadron series. I want to say there were 12 in that one? I can't recall, I should re-read them.
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Post by: mirth on January 27, 2017, 11:28:48 AM
I've never read any of the Rogue Squadron books.
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 27, 2017, 11:30:57 AM
Just keep this in mind:

The Force Awakens is a COMPLETELY different story than the books we're talking about.

The books all existed before that movie, and the creators of the movie have said outright that the books don't matter, and may as well have never existed.

Yeah , I get ya , I know the story is different . It's just that I had my daughter watching tv with me , and I could only rope her into "letting" me , lol , watch that one  ;D still a great movie night though :) then we ended up looking at TERRIBLE fan videos on YouTube of the upcoming movie in December , the last Jedi  :hide: wow , I'd sooner just wait !!!!

And then I told her about heir of the empire ......THAT did not go down well , because she doesn't want any of the plot ruining for seeing the movie in December  ;D I think she actually tried to unhear everything I just said , lol :) I told her I think rey and keylo rent are brother and sister  O:-)

But if the books are not going to be used , well firstly that sucks  :-\  I really like thrawn as a bad guy , he's got that laid back menacing , I will choke you with the force whilst working on my impressive Vader like smile and yawning ....attitude , going in !!!!!
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 27, 2017, 11:32:38 AM
There are literally hundreds of non-canon books set in the Star Wars universe out there...counting graphic novels.

One of my favorites is the X-Wing: Rogue Squadron series. I want to say there were 12 in that one? I can't recall, I should re-read them.

Please re-read them ....join me in my Star Wars mania  :D :bd: :nerd:
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Post by: mirth on January 27, 2017, 11:33:18 AM
One of my favorites is the X-Wing: Rogue Squadron series. I want to say there were 12 in that one? I can't recall, I should re-read them.

With all your free time....
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 27, 2017, 11:34:17 AM
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 ;D ;D.....only seconds away from the dark side , he is ...mhwahahahaha  >:D
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Post by: BanzaiCat on January 27, 2017, 11:34:31 AM
Please re-read them ....join me in my Star Wars mania  :D :bd: :nerd:

Nerd! ;)

With all your free time....

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Post by: mirth on January 27, 2017, 11:35:26 AM
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 ;D ;D.....only seconds away from the dark side , he is ...mhwahahahaha  >:D

Brant made camp on the dark side long ago.
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 27, 2017, 11:54:59 AM
Please re-read them ....join me in my Star Wars mania  :D :bd: :nerd:

Nerd! ;)

Nerds of a feather flock together ...... ;) and your inner nerd thanks my inner nerd , haha  ;D  :nerd:  ;)
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Post by: BanzaiCat on January 27, 2017, 11:56:27 AM
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 ;D ;D.....only seconds away from the dark side , he is ...mhwahahahaha  >:D

Brant made camp on the dark side long ago.

Are you kidding? The Dark Side made camp on Brant.  ;D
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 27, 2017, 11:58:01 AM
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 ;D ;D.....only seconds away from the dark side , he is ...mhwahahahaha  >:D

Brant made camp on the dark side long ago.

Some one take that red light sabre off him , dudes always end up losing a limb with those things !!!!
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Post by: Bison on January 27, 2017, 12:03:57 PM
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Post by: bayonetbrant on January 27, 2017, 12:14:52 PM
Zahn wrote first!

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Post by: Barthheart on January 27, 2017, 12:18:29 PM
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Post by: Emeraldlis on January 27, 2017, 12:54:49 PM
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Awesome  :coolsmiley:
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Post by: Martok on January 28, 2017, 01:16:40 PM
I've never read any of the Rogue Squadron books.

You mean the X-Wing series?  You should totally read it -- at least the first book, Rogue Squadron.  If you end up enjoying that one, I think you'd like the rest of the series -- at least the first 9 books.  (The 10th book, Mercy Kill, is more of a distant sequel -- it takes place after the events in the New Jedi Order and Legacy of the Force series.  I still found it to be a good read, but I'm pretty sure I would've gotten a lot more out of it if I had first/also read the NJO and LotF novels.) 




Zahn wrote first!

http://www.cafepress.com/grogheads/12554724

I still have my shirt.  8) 

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Post by: BanzaiCat on January 28, 2017, 03:15:43 PM
I do recall reading the Han Solo adventures series, something about his life as an Imperial officer candidate (which explained why he liked wearing the pants with the stripe down the sides - those were his uniform pants).

Also something that had to do with Jabba's palace; it was a collection of stories that were woven from the background of more well-known events, like the brain-spider-looking things walking around in the background in a few of the scenes in Jedi.
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Post by: mirth on January 29, 2017, 07:04:38 AM
I do recall reading the Han Solo adventures series, something about his life as an Imperial officer candidate (which explained why he liked wearing the pants with the stripe down the sides - those were his uniform pants).

Yeah one of the book's covered that. He made it into the Imperial Academy as a pilot cadet or something like that. I thought it was cool bit of backstory. It may have been the same book that introduced the Z-95 Headhunter, which was the precusor to the X-Wing (though it wasn't portrayed as such in the novel).

Those were cool books for the time. Not much Star Wars material to be found, outside of the films, in the late 70s/early 80s. The Marvel Comics and a handful of paperbacks were about it. And the Holiday Special  :uglystupid2: