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Title: Goodbye CDs
Post by: mirth on February 05, 2018, 12:20:50 PM
https://www.digitaltrends.com/music/best-buy-to-stop-selling-music-cds/
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Wes on February 05, 2018, 10:42:54 PM
Yeah, that's a major mistake...seems it's more about how everybody is getting paid than the lack of sales (which I figured was the reason for the article).

And with Millennials now returning in force to physical formats (even audio cassettes are rising in sales) the cd is now on the list for people wanting to break away from net based media and actually own something again for a change.

The nosurf reddit even has a guy chiming in and getting response:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nosurf/comments/7qvehl/music_im_switching_back_to_cds/

And recent YT videos getting in on the action:

13 Reasons Why Cassettes Are Cool Again in 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du5mi47z7hU&t

Making Cassette Tapes Cool Again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNa-KLAgy8

And Jack White's operation is going full steam:

(THIRD MAN PRESSING IS NOW OPEN (OFFICIAL VIDEO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcukGhELqPg

Even the thinking on DVDs is coming around:

http://bigthink.com/ideafeed/the-dvd-is-dead-and-you-should-miss-it

Basically, if you own large collections of just about anything these days related to media you may just have a very happy retirement future ahead of you...I'm thinking about cashing mine in :)
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: mirth on February 05, 2018, 11:08:10 PM
Physical media is dead. You can make a case for vinyl from an audiophile standoiint, but I don't think you can do the same for CDs. And most CDs made in the last 20 years were never expected to last more than 20 years. So it is entirely possible that a disc you bought in 1998 is no longer playable.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: trailrunner on February 06, 2018, 05:50:20 AM
I didn't know anybody sold CDs any more.  I got rid of my CDs a long time ago.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 06, 2018, 08:48:44 AM
I was really surprised when I found my new(ish) car didn't have a CD player. Sign 'o the times I guess.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: trailrunner on February 06, 2018, 10:00:52 AM
Quote from: BanzaiCat on February 06, 2018, 08:48:44 AM
I was really surprised when I found my new(ish) car didn't have a CD player. Sign 'o the times I guess.

I was actually surprised that the truck I bought last year did have a CD player.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Gusington on February 11, 2018, 06:38:11 PM
I love my CDs and still buy new music on CD...from Amazon.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 11, 2018, 06:44:50 PM
Some CDs you buy on Amazon have an insta-download option - buy the CD, you can get it shipped to you, but you can immediately download the MP3s from the album to your PC/device.

I bought a few CDs last year from Amazon but gave them away as I had the MP3s, so I had no need of them.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: bbmike on February 11, 2018, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 11, 2018, 06:38:11 PM
I love my CDs and still buy new music on CD...from Amazon.

Luddite!

I still remember those long boxes CD used to come in.  ;D
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: mirth on February 11, 2018, 06:53:54 PM
Quote from: bbmike on February 11, 2018, 06:48:56 PM
I still remember those long boxes CD used to come in.  ;D

Heh. I had forgotten about those.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 11, 2018, 06:55:30 PM
I had so many damn cassettes back in the 80s and early 90s. I was afraid to make the jump to CDs until they started appearing in my cars. Hell, I had a 2004 Volvo a few years back that had a CD and a cassette player, but both apparently are goners.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: OJsDad on February 11, 2018, 08:32:44 PM
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Faf%2F23%2F45%2Faf23457f57251ffa43f4040eaf27ced6.jpg&hash=3389342f89e3f37c56b7fd0d9d75600930ef454f)
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Gusington on February 11, 2018, 08:33:57 PM
^Sexy.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: airboy on February 11, 2018, 09:38:12 PM
We probably have a 1000 CDs.  My wife is talking about converting everything to digital with 2x copies on portable hard drives.  I'll believe that will happen when I see it.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: bbmike on February 12, 2018, 06:30:42 AM
Quote from: mirth on February 05, 2018, 11:08:10 PM
Physical media is dead. You can make a case for vinyl from an audiophile standoiint, but I don't think you can do the same for CDs. And most CDs made in the last 20 years were never expected to last more than 20 years. So it is entirely possible that a disc you bought in 1998 is no longer playable.

I forgot about that. I have CDs from the early/mid 80s that still seem like new.

Quote from: airboy on February 11, 2018, 09:38:12 PM
We probably have a 1000 CDs.  My wife is talking about converting everything to digital with 2x copies on portable hard drives.  I'll believe that will happen when I see it.

I started doing that last year. I'm about half way through.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Pete Dero on February 12, 2018, 07:55:21 AM
I have CD's from around 1980 and they still play without issues.  (Those you burn yourself should only last a couple of years).

I think last year I bought around 15 new ones (part Amazon and part a local store after ordering online).
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: DoctorQuest on February 12, 2018, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: trailrunner on February 06, 2018, 10:00:52 AM
Quote from: BanzaiCat on February 06, 2018, 08:48:44 AM
I was really surprised when I found my new(ish) car didn't have a CD player. Sign 'o the times I guess.

I was actually surprised that the truck I bought last year did have a CD player.

I rented a car this weekend that did not have a CD player.

I thought "pressed" CDs lasted a lot longer than "burned" CDs.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Gusington on February 12, 2018, 01:29:59 PM
My 2016 Subaru has a CD player.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Barthheart on February 12, 2018, 01:34:00 PM
My 2017 Mitsubishi Outlander has a CD player.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Gusington on February 12, 2018, 01:40:14 PM
We win.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2018, 01:41:39 PM
My car has an 8-track player
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Gusington on February 12, 2018, 01:44:20 PM
^ No 78 turntable?
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2018, 01:45:34 PM
I keep that in my van.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Gusington on February 12, 2018, 01:53:36 PM
You are the hero we don't deserve.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2018, 01:54:25 PM
I'm the hero no one deserves.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Gusington on February 12, 2018, 01:55:48 PM
Only the kool katz
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 12, 2018, 04:09:07 PM
Quote from: mirth on February 12, 2018, 01:45:34 PM
I keep that in my van.

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.ebaumsworld.com%2FmediaFiles%2Fpicture%2F3849%2F80820404.jpg&hash=7c6d4aa84e6fb074103b3b1a5916c088af50c95c)
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2018, 04:11:42 PM
^She's a beaut!
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 12, 2018, 04:12:24 PM
The 'free candy' van was just too easy. ;D
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2018, 04:13:39 PM
I appreciate that you went the extra mile.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Staggerwing on February 12, 2018, 08:32:55 PM
I have to admit- the apertures for the surveillance gear is well camouflaged. It's behind the, um 'eyes'... right?
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Wes on February 12, 2018, 09:45:24 PM
Laugh if you want to guys but physical media has been on the rise again since around 2010. Us older guys know how much of a headache it is maintaining and carrying this stuff around but the millennials are all about it.

Vinyl sales doubled in the UK last year. I just moved back to an area I haven't been shopping in for nearly 20 years and the corporate places are gone but the mom and pops are doing fine and expanding. Books, vinyl, cds, vhs, dvds, audio cassettes...they are still going. And all the new stuff being made. We do live in interesting times.

And all my cds with the exception of one (which I think was bad from the word go) all work fine.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 13, 2018, 07:45:03 AM
I won't disparage it. I've been wanting to buy a record player for some time. I like browsing through the vinyl at Half Price Books; it's like a random treasure hunt.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Gusington on February 13, 2018, 07:50:25 AM
^Hipster 'dufous'
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 13, 2018, 07:52:51 AM
Nah. I never buy any. I just like scanning through them really quick.

I have exactly one vinyl album to my name right now...I've had it since high school, when I had a record player/dual cassette deck player in my room. No idea why I've kept it this long.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6c/Dancingundercover.jpg/220px-Dancingundercover.jpg)

Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: bbmike on February 13, 2018, 07:57:20 AM
Bah! True audiophiles still use Edison's wax cylinders! You kids and your vinyl.

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aarcentral.com%2Fpics%2Fedison.jpg&hash=3fbe49fa12d3206143d10c0b6451f083c0cf3f9b)
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 13, 2018, 08:03:43 AM
You got me there, grandpa. :P
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Pete Dero on February 13, 2018, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: BanzaiCat on February 13, 2018, 07:45:03 AM
I won't disparage it. I've been wanting to buy a record player for some time. I like browsing through the vinyl at Half Price Books; it's like a random treasure hunt.

After some testing I must conclude that for use in a car a cd player is a better option than a record player.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 13, 2018, 08:07:41 AM
Quite.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Wes on February 13, 2018, 03:03:53 PM
I always think of this when listening to why kids want the old stuff:



Amen
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Staggerwing on February 13, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
I still have a crap-load of vinyl records in my shed. I've been afraid to check on them, fearing that all their covers have melted together due to the elements. Unfortunately I have no room for them indoors and those sleeves are probably allergen-bombs after all those years. One of these years I'll buy a modern turntable and start the triage.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: jamus34 on February 17, 2018, 10:42:45 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on February 13, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
I still have a crap-load of vinyl records in my shed. I've been afraid to check on them, fearing that all their covers have melted together due to the elements. Unfortunately I have no room for them indoors and those sleeves are probably allergen-bombs after all those years. One of these years I'll buy a modern turntable and start the triage.

Shed???

Best guess is the sleeves are mold bombs and the vinyl is warped to all hell.
Title: Re: Goodbye CDs
Post by: Staggerwing on February 18, 2018, 07:24:45 AM
Very probably, but the shed is elevated and reasonably dry, the albums are stored packed together, and their previous home for 15 years was a drafty garage. They survived the latter and if it wasn't for the shed I'd not have been able to keep them at all when I moved. I've only enough room for my maker gear, computers, and wargames/books. To bring the albums inside would have required getting rid of some of the others.