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Hartford688

Quote from: Tuna on October 30, 2016, 04:24:37 PM
Baby steps.. first you just do taking off and landing...

Then Watch a few videos.. .Figure out which commands to map to buttons on your Joystick or keys. I Put all the changes I do into a text file, so I can reference it as I'm playing. I have Thrustmaster Hotas, so only one Hat.. I made two of the buttons modifier keys so that I could use the Hat for three different functions without taking hands of the joystick.

If you do all by Keyboard it is definitely too hard!.. LOL, just think, the Flaming Cliff planes are the 'easy' ones ;-).

But seriously, the first time you start to get it, it starts getting really fun. This is from a noob who still really sucks!

Thanks for the tips and encouragement. I'll try to take it slow and build up in the SU27 - I've found a video series for beginners, so I'll work my way through that...

Tuna

Quote from: Skoop on October 30, 2016, 04:34:15 PM
I actually think the non fc3 AC with clickable cockpits are easier to use then trying to remember all these random hotas combos needed for fc3.

I think the clickable is 'fun' for the immersion feeling during the 'startup' procedures. But when you're in the thick of it, you don't want to be taking your hands of stick fumbling with the mouse or the keyboard!.. Someday I'll get one of those two hundred dolla sticks!  O0

JudgeDredd

Has this been mentioned in this thread?

http://www.dcskneeboardbuilder.com/index.html

It's a very useful tool to create kneeboards for your aircraft. Basically, you load the manual, create various kneeboards and edit them to remove pages. For example, I've got 3 kneeboards created for the Su-25T...one is the complete manual, one is Weapons Employment and one is Cockpit Details.

You load the full manual and save it as the Full Manual. Then I copied that and saved it as Weapons Employment, edited it and removed all the pages except the ones dealing with weapons. Same process for the cockpit details.

Very useful.
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Nefaro

Quote from: Tuna on October 30, 2016, 05:07:54 PM
Quote from: Skoop on October 30, 2016, 04:34:15 PM
I actually think the non fc3 AC with clickable cockpits are easier to use then trying to remember all these random hotas combos needed for fc3.

I think the clickable is 'fun' for the immersion feeling during the 'startup' procedures. But when you're in the thick of it, you don't want to be taking your hands of stick fumbling with the mouse or the keyboard!.. Someday I'll get one of those two hundred dolla sticks!  O0


Exactly.

I'd much rather have MOAR BUTTONS than to require taking my hands off the HOTAS in order to quickly fumble with the mouse while holding my TrackIR'd head steady in one direction.

It's often easier to just press two keyboard keys, too. 

A good recent example, for me, has been jettisoning Fuel Tanks in the Mirage 2k.  With the modelled cockpit, I have to lean forward and down into the cockpit, take a hand off my stick/throttle, click the safety cover up, click the switch underneath, click the stores button indicating the fuel tank(s), pickle the Fire button on my stick, click the switch back to non-jettison side, flip the cover back down, re-select whatever weapon's button I had been intending to use before all this.  Aaaaand done.

For other aircraft, it's just a matter of taking a hand away and pressing L.ALT+R, and going back to the hectic dogfight or missile dodging you need to be quickly & intensely concentrating on.    ???

Using keyboard shortcuts may seem an over simplification on the surface.  But in these sims we get no tactile feel, nor muscle memory of where such things are.  Instead we get and interface-to-an-interface;  mouse AND view control interface to interact with the cockpit layout interface.  Double-layered = more time and attention needed.  Keyboard shortcuts are more akin to using cockpit switches & buttons, despite not looking exactly like them, because you physically reach over and punch 'em.

Don't get me wrong.. I kinda enjoy learning where everything is, to some extent, but it just turns out to be more trouble than it should, due to hardware limitations.  And a bit gimmicky too.

Nefaro

Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 30, 2016, 05:21:08 PM
Has this been mentioned in this thread?

http://www.dcskneeboardbuilder.com/index.html

It's a very useful tool to create kneeboards for your aircraft. Basically, you load the manual, create various kneeboards and edit them to remove pages. For example, I've got 3 kneeboards created for the Su-25T...one is the complete manual, one is Weapons Employment and one is Cockpit Details.

You load the full manual and save it as the Full Manual. Then I copied that and saved it as Weapons Employment, edited it and removed all the pages except the ones dealing with weapons. Same process for the cockpit details.

Very useful.


I noticed they added some Kneeboard mod options awhile back.  Didn't really check into it, however. 

Cool stuff.   Also reminds me how scattered ED's development of the sim always is.  ;D

Yskonyn

Nice tip! I didn't know about this one either. Thanks for sharing.
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jomni

#531
I'm more for clickable.
Doing civilian flight for a long time with clickable is easier to memorise and go back to than keyboard presses.  All I need to know is the procedure and where the switches are.  It is definitely required for A-10C and Blackshark level fidelity.
Having said that, I prefer FC3 level of detail as I don't want to spend a lot of time studying.

solops

What DCS are you guys talking about? The only DCS I know of are DCS Barbarossa, Case Blue and Blitzkrieg....obviously not what is going on here.
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Millipede

Quote from: solops on October 31, 2016, 10:20:00 AM
What DCS are you guys talking about? The only DCS I know of are DCS Barbarossa, Case Blue and Blitzkrieg....obviously not what is going on here.

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Nefaro

Quote from: solops on October 31, 2016, 10:20:00 AM
What DCS are you guys talking about? The only DCS I know of are DCS Barbarossa, Case Blue and Blitzkrieg....obviously not what is going on here.


http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/products/world/


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Grim.Reaper

Only a few hours left in the sell.......decisions, decisions....

jomni

#536
Anyone know how to make vids or gifs out of Tacview? Fraps just records a black screen.   I have something very interesting to share.
Update: Bandicam worked.

Asid

Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 31, 2016, 04:23:18 PM
Only a few hours left in the sell.......decisions, decisions....

Don't worry...There is always a sale on...I have never seen a game go on sale as much as this....Ever  :D
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jomni

#539
Note: Moved to Videos tread