Steel Division 1944 (by wargame red dragon devs) in game trailer and unit stream

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Jarhead0331

Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on August 25, 2018, 05:55:55 PM
If you enjoy it, that's cool.  I want to but it doesn't click with me.

That's cool if you don't like it, or suck at it, but I don't think its because of how reinforcements work.
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Silent Disapproval Robot

It is why I don't particularly like it.  I find it limiting as I'd rather have a set pool of units available all at once in order to plan my attack or defence over having them come on a timer.

Jarhead0331

Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on August 25, 2018, 06:07:29 PM
It is why I don't particularly like it.  I find it limiting as I'd rather have a set pool of units available all at once in order to plan my attack or defence over having them come on a timer.

OK. That's fair enough. I didn't like it at first either. I guess it grew on me once I got better at building decks, which is something I avoided delving into for quite some time.
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JasonPratt

Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on August 25, 2018, 06:07:29 PM
It is why I don't particularly like it.  I find it limiting as I'd rather have a set pool of units available all at once in order to plan my attack or defence over having them come on a timer.

There are ways to do almost that.
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Iconoclast

Quote from: Destraex on August 12, 2018, 06:33:34 PM

Really been enjoying this guys videos on steel division tourney match commentary. It's like watching a game of your chosen sport.
This guy really knows his stuff and you learn a lot from him. I have seen so many tactics in this game that I just did not have the game knowledge to be able to use effectively.



Do you have a video of him you liked in particular? I watched a few, trying to give the game another chance, and I didn't really see any sort of "tactical behavior" I think I would enjoy.

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on July 27, 2018, 05:34:47 AM

Huge learning curve? Of Steel Division? I don't see it, not at all.

The deck building takes some learning, but gameplay is a no brainer. When I think "huge learning curve", I think War in the pacific, etc.

That's what I think as well... But I am open to being convinced of the entertainment factor. Although a game that seems to value "any piece of land" the same for VP Point calculation and doesn't even come with unit'S abilities to dig-in, or any kind of engagement type apart from "we drive straight at each other", does fight uphill while convincing me.

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Destraex

I don't consider it to have a huge learning curve either. However to use the units well and understand how the stats interact is a skill that does have a little bit of a curve. But generally it's not much more complex than chess. It takes a lot of really nice things into account as well. Like penetration being tied to the range of weapons and such. Things you really don't get in an RTS normally. It's a very nice cross between RTS and wargame. Being game enough not to be laborious for most players and real enough to suspend my disbelief.

Generally I don't think steel division is worth playing unless you play with a friend on the same side. I do enjoy it on my own occasionally though. It is a very engaging game.
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Jarhead0331

^you're biased though. You always prefer multiplayer. I'm biased toward single player and outside of a few matches with Jason Pratt, it's the only way way I play this game and it's totally worth it.
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jamus34

Anyone up for getting a Grogs game going on this again.


I also played with Pratt and while I was not very good (sucked at deckbuilding) I had a ton of fun.
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Destraex

If I could be around when you boys were on without the kids running riot (my son has a penetrating voice and I have industrial deafness making it hard to play with people online with voice during the day). I am always up for a bit of SD44 against the AI. 
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JasonPratt

Drop me a ping if you see me on Steam! (And not already in something else, but often I can stop that. ;) )
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Barthheart

Hmmm.... I've also played a game of this with Jason...... ???  :)

Maybe a MP Grog game would be fun..... I'd be up for that.

Destraex

For private games you can do 4 people vs 4 ai. It is possible though to do 6 people vs 2 ai with a bit of creative clicking. The Eugen public servers do 10 vs 10 but you cannot add ai.
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Hofstadter

Im up for it, but I dont think im online at the same time as anybody else
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Quote from: stolypin on July 26, 2018, 09:21:57 AM
I can't recall precisely why, but after watching a few videos I somehow got it into my head that Steel Division Normandy '44 was not for me and wrote it off early on.  (I've always been a Steel Panthers / Combat Mission / Tiller loyalist).  But I'm starting to think I may have been shortsighted as I have seen many positive comments since SDII was announced.  (The lack of a dynamic campaign is of zero concern to me as I prefer scenarios to campaigns).


It seems to go on sale pretty often -- I'd bet you could pick it up for $20 without too much trouble with a little searching and patience.

Anyway, it's a very good game, well worth checking out. I'm not much of a Tiller guy at all myself, but have poured countless hours into Combat Mission. Obviously it's a very different game from CM, but I'm evidence that you can enjoy SD'44 even if Combat Mission is your preferred cup of tea.

  Yep it was 13 bucks and with the DLC about 30 so I got it.  The tutorials are fun so far.

jomni

Played during the weekend.  But Easy AI is too easy. I remember having trouble at medium.