Quote from: undercovergeek on Today at 07:24:05 AMI hope one day they put all their energy into something they truly don't understand that is so deplorable and despicable to be a part of just so they can say there now were included and then go - fuck!
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on Yesterday at 10:05:26 PMI think what W8 is talking about is "the bigger picture". There are all these small cultural battles being waged and viewed independently, many of them seem irrelevant, petty or meaningless. But when added together and viewed as a whole, it can look quite disconcerting to many and feel overwhelming.
Quote from: Gusington on Today at 07:05:49 AMAt the end of the day, as grogs, don't we just want everyone to stfu and go away anyway? As long as people play nice who really cares. I do recognize the value of balance that JH is talking about above in addition to what 'Geek mentioned but as I age...I just want everyone to stfu, calm down and chill. Go have an edible or something. I am at the end of me caring about the entire 'us vs. them' dichotomy, which this boils down to basically.
'Can't we all just get along?'
Quote from: solops on Today at 05:18:01 AMAnd i would note that plants are people, too.
Quote from: undercovergeek on Today at 03:15:59 AMI think to a certain degree it has nothing to do with female space marines and more to do with meeting up with your friends at a club or a garage and getting away from all the shit that compulsory diversity and woke-ism brings in an average working day and all the other crap that comes with real life because you've come to play soldiers to get away from all that and here in the microcosm of 40k it didn't exist and it was you and your army and your friends and now it's invading that bit of peace and quiet you had from the world+1
Don't get me wrong - I'm neither for or against - you do you over there and I'll do me over here
Like the vegans of this world - you can do that and I'll eat meat but don't be a dick and stand outside my restaurant calling me a flesh eating murderer
As I get older I realise the best most peaceful form of inclusivity is not to include any fucker at all
Quote from: Gusington on Yesterday at 09:17:14 AMFor the record I do not have a neckbeard. But I do love me some 40k. Maybe on a more casual level, but I still do love it.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on Yesterday at 09:23:30 AMI think there is a place for diversity that fits neatly within the existing lore. For instance, the Salamanders are black. The White Scars are Asian/Mongolian. The Adepta Sororitas are all, of course, women. Many agents within the Officio Assassinorum and Inquisition are women, as are many sanctioned psykers, Rogue Traders and navigators. This works with the lore without feeling forced or imposed. Once they start changing lore to benefit notions of diversity and inclusion is where you piss people off (no, not just the "neckbeards") and start diluting the lore that is organic and "believable" and that has been developed over many decades at this point. It seems totally unnecessary and forced.I agree.
Bad for the entire IP in my view.