Oklahoma going back to the Indians?

Started by bayonetbrant, March 16, 2018, 07:30:43 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Steelgrave

Honestly, if the playing field is tilted a bit in their favor at this point, who are we to complain? After all, it's the US Government who broke treaty after treaty over the centuries and helped impoverish Natives in the first place. Spend time driving through Res lands as I have done,  from Arizona to Arkansas, and you still see poverty on scale with the worst areas of the east coast, the Appalachians or the Rust Belt. Some Native tribes running casinos and putting money back into their community hurts me not at all. And yeah, they are responsible for their own destinies as are we all, but America is no longer the upwardly mobile, "every man is born equal" society that we like to think of ourselves as. Rising up out of poverty requires opportunity and education, both of which are lacking in our poorest communities, including Native reservations.

mirth

"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

Steelgrave


Ubercat

"If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labelled a radical 50 years ago, a liberal 25 years ago, and a racist today."

- Thomas Sowell

Steelgrave

#19
But your kitty looks angry.....    :D

Ubercat

Quote from: JasonPratt on March 21, 2018, 09:05:25 AM
There are indeed a few similarities. Also great differences of course -- for various reasons, Native tribes have many more, and much stronger, advantages than the "Palestinians".

And just about every advantage possessed by the local Arabs commonly referred to as Palestinians is thanks to the Israelis. They should be grateful to the Jews for having built their land up in the first place. They certainly weren't going to do the work! They also have the opportunity to thrive and rise in Israeli society. There are Arab judges, Knesset members, etc. The great majority would rather be victims, though.

I haven't been able to help noticing that same pattern in the hordes of young male Muslim "refugees" flooding Europe. Not a bit of gratitude for the generosity of their hosts. Just an overwhelming sense of entitlement which the lefty politicians are eager to placate. They're not white, or Christian, so they must be good.
"If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labelled a radical 50 years ago, a liberal 25 years ago, and a racist today."

- Thomas Sowell

Ubercat

Uber wanted that damn camera out of his face. I'm lucky I took it. It's a great pic and one of only 2-3 I still have of him.
"If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labelled a radical 50 years ago, a liberal 25 years ago, and a racist today."

- Thomas Sowell

Steelgrave

Quote from: Ubercat on March 21, 2018, 10:07:46 AM
Uber wanted that damn camera out of his face. I'm lucky I took it. It's a great pic and one of only 2-3 I still have of him.

It IS a great pic. Glad you have it as well  O0

Sir Slash

Wait. The cat is NOT the one doing the post? Dammit! I've been telling everybody we are Equal Opportunity here at the Grogs.
"Take a look at that". Sgt. Wilkerson-- CMBN. His last words after spotting a German tank on the other side of a hedgerow.

JasonPratt

Quote from: Ubercat on March 21, 2018, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 21, 2018, 09:05:25 AM
There are indeed a few similarities. Also great differences of course -- for various reasons, Native tribes have many more, and much stronger, advantages than the "Palestinians".

And just about every advantage possessed by the local Arabs commonly referred to as Palestinians is thanks to the Israelis.

Agreed, and if the "Palestinians" (for a convenient shorthand) would agree to live and work cooperatively under the state of Israel, they would level up to enjoying the same advantages as Arabian (Muslim and otherwise) Israelis. Thus approaching, along with Jewish Israelis, the same advantages currently held in principle (if not always or usually in practice) by Native American tribes. ;)

(Or if Jordan or other nearby Muslim nations would incorporate them, they would level up to... um, "enjoying", for want of a better word, the same "advantages", for want of a better word, as the Muslim inhabitants of those nations.  ::) )
ICEBREAKER THESIS CHRONOLOGY! -- Victor Suvorov's Stalin Grand Strategy theory, in lots and lots of chronological order...
Dawn of Armageddon -- narrative AAR for Dawn of War: Soulstorm: Ultimate Apocalypse
Survive Harder! -- Two season narrative AAR, an Amazon Blood Bowl career.
PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Fantasy Wars narrative AAR, half a combined campaign.
Khazâd du-bekâr! -- narrative dwarf AAR for LotR BfME2 RotWK campaign.
RobO Q Campaign Generator -- archived classic CMBB/CMAK tool!

Steelgrave

Quote from: Sir Slash on March 21, 2018, 10:47:48 AM
Wait. The cat is NOT the one doing the post? Dammit! I've been telling everybody we are Equal Opportunity here at the Grogs.

My Lab writes my posts. I have to go back and add punctuation but, besides that, she's quite the time-saver!

Sir Slash

Add your own punctuation? Sounds.... RUFF!
"Take a look at that". Sgt. Wilkerson-- CMBN. His last words after spotting a German tank on the other side of a hedgerow.

mirth

"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus