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endfire79

RIP,  Dead Poets Society, Good Will Hunting, Good Morning Vietnam & Mrs Doubtfire were what came to mind to me today, that, and Live on the Met.

On a side note, depression is really difficult to deal with for people of all backgrounds and status, not to mention on their families as well.  It's a vicious cycle. I recently tried to help my older brother to go get help, but although he acknowledged his issues, he did not actively try to go get help, despite offering.  I think I got him even angrier as I am the younger brother. 

I tried to show him things were not all that bad (compared to some friends I have who were once war refugees, his situation in life is really fortunate) and highlighted his strengths, as well as his weaknesses and what he needed to work on.  Worse, he got into drinking again and after staying back at our parents old place for a bit, he got caught hiding booze and was politely asked to take some time to find an apartment in a few weeks and then leave (the folks are old).  He took off himself that same day obviously upset, without really saying where he was going.  Probably at a girlfriends place, or a friends - it's always the same. 

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Gusington

I totally forgot about One Hour Photo...that was a really creepy movie. And I can't help but love Good Mornng Vietnam..."what does three up and three down mean to you, Airman?"

"End of an inning?"


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Martok

I heard about his death when I was getting ready for work last night.  I'm still in too much shock for the grief to have really set in yet. 

And it *is* grief, however odd and/or ridiculous it may be for me to feel that emotion regarding someone I never personally met.  I rarely experience more than a momentary pang for even the most worthy celebrities who have passed on (much less *unworthy* ones ::) ), but Williams was one of those rare people with whom I've always felt a certain...resonance.  I couldn't tell you what or why that was, exactly, only that I identified with him on some level. 


I will miss Robin Williams' performances -- both comedic and dramatic -- but I'll miss the man himself more.  This world is a little duller place without him in it now.  :'( 





Quote from: endfire79 on August 12, 2014, 01:37:00 PM
On a side note, depression is really difficult to deal with for people of all backgrounds and status, not to mention on their families as well.  It's a vicious cycle.
Today's copy of USA Today had a small, but concise, article (in conjunction with Williams' suicide) regarding depression that I really liked.  An excerpt: 


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People who are severely depressed can't see past their failures, even if they've been as successful as Williams. 

"With depression, people just forget," says Julie Cerel, a psychologist, board chairwoman of the American Association of Suicidology, and associate professor at the University of Kentucky.  "They get so consumed by the depression and by the feelings of not being worthy that they forget all the wonderful things in their lives." 

They feel that they are a burden on their family and that the world would be better off without them. 

"Having depression and being in a suicidal state twists reality.  It doesn't matter if someone has a wife or is well loved," Cerel says.


The article does a pretty good job of describing what it's like for those who suffer from severe depression.  I would know, as I've battled it myself in the past. 

It's difficult to convey what severe depression is truly like to those who have never had it -- especially since you don't want to find out what it's actually like.  Simply understanding it (without actually experiencing it) is probably about the best one can hope for. 

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Steelgrave

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I'm with you there, Martok. Robin Williams was one of the very few celebs that I cared about. Your choice of words, "resonance", kind of sums it up for me as well. Most celebs are replaceable parts in my opinion, but a select few...Williams, Bill Murray, Robert Duvall....they've always reached me on a little deeper level. Maybe at some point they've played a role that we identified with so deeply it becomes impossible to separate the actor from the beloved character. Maybe, like Murray, they're just someone you think you would like to know, someone you would love to have a beer with. Sadly, none of us "know" these people (painfully obvious with Robin Williams), but money, fame, renown, success....none of it matters when it's just you and your inner demons.

OJsDad

From a Yahoo article about the the actress that played April in the 1990 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. 

QuoteHoag, 22 at the time, was in the middle of shooting the Robin Williams comedy Cadillac Man, and her schedule prevented her from committing to Ninja Turtles. Then the producers were able to make it work, and Hoag had to fly from New York to Wilmington, North Carolina, on the weekends for production. "People would be wondering where I would racing off to on a Friday," says Hoag, who is now 46. "I bashfully said Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Robin was like, 'Are they making a movie of that!?' He was so excited. I'm a brand new actor, my career was just starting off and I had Robin Williams' seal of approval. After that, I would proudly say the Turtles name."
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Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

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mirth

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Gusington



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We can't live under the threat of a c*nt because he's threatening nuclear Armageddon.

-JudgeDredd

GDS_Starfury

sometimes its good to hurt.
Toonces - Don't ask me, I just close my eyes and take it.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


LongBlade

Quote from: mirth on August 12, 2014, 06:20:56 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on August 12, 2014, 05:54:09 PM
chew on this:

http://www.salon.com/2014/08/12/robin_williams_secret_life_as_a_video_gamer_the_online_gaming_community_mourns_one_of_its_own/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

I didn't think I could feel more bummed about his passing. Now I do. :(

He will be missed.

But I am choosing to appreciate his genius (recognizing that opinions differ on his style, and not all of us share that opinion) by enjoying so many of his performances being played in snippets on the news.

The Birdcage provided hours and hours of laughter to my parents and my family. We'd watch it at least once a year over the summer when my family came to visit.

Dead Poets' Society. 'Nuff said.

Again, I'm sorry that he couldn't overcome his depression. That can be really tough.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

mirth

Severe depression is hard to fathom if you haven't experienced it. The ability to reason normally is lost.
"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

Gusington

The Birdcage is one of The Wife's favorite movies. One of mine is Good Morning Vietnam. Some of his best drama performances like Dead Poets Society and The Fisher King I've never even seen. I always return to his Live at the Met (1987) as the way I want to remember him.


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We can't live under the threat of a c*nt because he's threatening nuclear Armageddon.

-JudgeDredd

Al

I never did watch much of his stuff.  Plus I'm always a bit leery when a famous celebrity dies the outpouring of grief quickly goes over the the top.  Mrs Doubtfire was good but, as others have said, his schtick did get annoying at times.  However, he did a lot with the USO and that's alright in my book.  Too bad his demons finally got the better of him.
Al

LongBlade

Quote from: Gusington on August 12, 2014, 08:05:35 PM
The Birdcage is one of The Wife's favorite movies. One of mine is Good Morning Vietnam. Some of his best drama performances like Dead Poets Society and The Fisher King I've never even seen. I always return to his Live at the Met (1987) as the way I want to remember him.

You must see Dead Poets.

Must.

See.

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.